A conversation between curator Bassam El Baroni and the artist duo Vermeir & Heiremans around their expansive practice that investigates the dynamics between economy, law, and governing, deploying the arts and the socio-economic conditions of artists as their preferred case studies.
The conversation follows the screening of A Modest Proposal (in a Black Box) (2018), in which Vermeir & Heiremans, who are also the film's protagonists, discuss a new financial model with a lawyer. Their dialogue, witnessed by the lawyers assistant, focuses on the question if financialisation can be re-purposed towards generating a more equitable arts ecology.
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